Wednesday, October 10, 2018

kono ore da! この俺だ!

In Japanese, the phrase kono ore da! この俺だ! translates literally to "it's this me!" But that sounds weird in English. So, in this post, I'll explain what kono ore means and how it works.

何か用でしょうか? 話を今してんのはこのオレだッ! 誰が質問していいと言ったッ!? このボケがッ!
Manga: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure - Part 5: Golden Wind, JoJo no Kimyou na Bouken: Ougon no Kaze ジョジョの奇妙な冒険 黄金の風 (Chapter 441, 黄金体験その②)

How It Works

To understand how kono ore works, all you have to do is take a look at a different, but similar phrase:

  • ano densetsu no Yamada Tae ga fukkatsu shita dato?!
    That legendary Yamada Tae has resurrected, [you] said?!
  • ano Yamada Tae ga?!
    That Yamada Tae [has]?!
  • ano Yamada Tae?!
    THAT Yamada Tae?!

As you can see, when we use ano あの, "that," this way, we're often talking about how impressive someone or something is. We are saying THAT one? And not another one that happens to have the same name? THAT one?

Similarly, in Japanese you can use kono ore この俺 to refer to yourself, because kono この refers to things close to the speaker and there's nothing closer to the speaker than the speaker himself.

In which case it would be THIS me, and not anyone else. To understand it we'd need more context. Generally, it's only used a way to imply contrast. That is, I have done all this stuff, or I am this way, so it can't, or shouldn't, be that something like this happens to someone like me.

  • kono ore ga kyoufu shiteru dato?!
    This me is terrified?!
    (i.e. I'm terrified? Impossible! I'm a hero who has fought thousands of battles, bested countless foes, faced death infinite times, AND EMERGED VICTORIOUS. You're telling this me, that is, someone like this which I am, would be terrified?! SONNA BAKA NA!!!11)

Hint of Self-Importance

In manga and anime, kono ore da, kono ore ga, kono ore ni, kono ore wo, and so on are often used by self-important, pompous, or narcissistic characters who're full of themselves, as a way to imply: THIS me is saying it, not just any wimpy, riff-raff, side-character. THIS me is.

Kono Ore, Kono Watashi, Kono Boku

As one would expect, different first person pronouns can be used (ore, watashi, boku, watakushi). But in manga each of those pronouns is normally associated with a different type of a character. Basically:

  • kono ore
    Probably some buff dude.
    Thinks he is the strongest.
    Cares about turf.
    Pulls rank.
  • kono watashi
    A woman who's full of herself.
    Or some businessman who's also full of himself.
    Or a rich girl who's full of herself, a.k.a. ojousama お嬢様.
  • kono boku
    A rich boy, a.k.a. bocchan 坊っちゃん.
  • kono watakushi
    A classy character.
    A rich girl.
    A butler or maid that works for a rich character.


For reference, a couple of examples of kono ore being used in manga.

Kono Ore Da この俺だ

何か用でしょうか? 話を今してんのはこのオレだッ! 誰が質問していいと言ったッ!? このボケがッ!
Manga: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure - Part 5: Golden Wind, JoJo no Kimyou na Bouken: Ougon no Kaze ジョジョの奇妙な冒険 黄金の風 (Chapter 441, 黄金体験その②)
  • nanika
    you deshou ka?
    何か 用でしょうか?
    • [You want something?]
    • [Anything you want to discuss?]
    • [What's the matter?]
  • hanashi wo
    ima shite'n-no wa kono ore da'!
    話を 今してんのは (space) このオレだ
    • [The one] talking [right] now is this me!
    • I am [the one] talking [right] now!
  • dare ga shitsumon shite ii to itta'!?
    Who said it was alright to ask questions!?
  • kono boke ga'!
    • "This idiot!"
    • [You] idiot!

Kono Ore Ga この俺が

なさけないやつだ・・・・・・ まさかあのカカロットあいてにこのオレがわざわざ動くことになるとはな・・・・・・
Manga: Dragon Ball, ドラゴンボール (Chapter 226, 界王拳の謎)
  • nasakenai
    yatsu da
    なさけない やつだ・・・・・・
    [What a] pathetic guy.
    (referring to a guy who just lost to Kakarot.)
  • masaka
    ano Kakarotto aite ni
    kono ore ga wazawaza
    ugoku koto ni
    naru towa na......
    まさか あのカカロットあいてに このオレが わざわざ 動くことに なるとはな・・・・・・
    [It's unbelievable that]
    against that Kakarot
    I (kono ore) would have to [fight.]
    (i.e. Vegeta didn't expect it would need his super-superior powers to beat a small-fry like Kakarot.)

Kono Ore Yori この俺より

悟飯 自信をもて・・・ おまえがその気になればこのオレよりパワーは上だ・・・・・・
Manga: Dragon Ball, ドラゴンボール (Chapter 220, わずかな光)
  • Gohan
    jishin wo mote...

    悟飯 自信をもて・・・
    Gohan, have confidence.
  • omae ga
    sono ki ni nareba
    おまえが その気になれば
    [If] you [felt like it]
  • kono ore yori
    pawaa wa ue da......

    このオレより パワーは上だ・・・・・・
    • [Your] power [would] be up from this me......
    • [Your] power [would] be above [mine]......

Kono Ore-sama この俺様

The word ore-sama 俺様 is an even more ridiculously self-important term that nobody would use seriously. It's combines ore with the honorific suffix ~sama ~様.

Normally, you would never use a honorific on yourself, but self-important characters do this because self-important characters don't care. They think they're that important.

こっ この オレさまがたいしたことないだと・・・・・・!!!! いまの攻撃でわかった
Manga: Dragon Ball, ドラゴンボール (Chapter 225, ナッパ ても足も出ず)
  • ko' kono
    ore-sama ga
    taishita koto
    nai dato......!!!!

    こっ この オレさまが たいしたこと ないだと・・・・・・!!!!
    Th-- this me isn't [a big deal], [you] say......!!!!
  • sou da
    [That's right.]
  • ima no kougeki de

    いまの攻撃で わかった
    With [that] attack [just] now [I] realized.
    (Goku figured Nappa isn't a big deal from how weak his attack was.)
Manga: School Rumble, スクールランブル (Chapter 70, Three Violent People)
  • ima sara
    kono ore-sama no
    osoroshi-sa ni
    oso-sugiru ze...?

    今さら この俺様の 恐ろしさに 気づいても 遅すぎるぜ・・・?
  • Even if [you finally] noticed how frightening this me is, it's [already] too late.
    • ima sara 今更
      Only now. After all this time. Finally.
    • osoroshi-sa 恐ろしさ
      Frightening-ness. How frightening.
    • kidzuku 気づく
      To notice.
    • kidzuite-mo 気づいても
      Even if [you] notice.
    • osoi 遅い
    • oso-sugiru 遅すぎる
      Too late.

Kono Boku この僕

ファントムハイブ家 当主は”シエル・ファントムハイブ(この僕)”だ
Manga: Black Butler, Kuroshitsuji 黒執事 (Chapter 2, その執事、万能)
  • Fantomuhaibu-ke
    toushu wa
    ファントムハイブ家 当主は
    The head of the Phantomhive family...
  • ”Shieru-Fantomuhaibu (kono boku)*” da
    is "Ciel Phantomhive (this me)*."
    (*a gikun 義訓, different word written as furigana.)

Kono Watashi この私

全く 下世話な愚民共 この私を誰だと思ってるの?
Manga: Kaguya-sama wa Kokurasetai ~Tensai-Tachi no Ren'ai Zunousen かぐや様は告らせたい~天才たちの恋愛頭脳戦~ (Chapter 1)
  • mattaku
    [Good grief.]
  • gesewa na gumin-domo
    [What a lot of prattling fools.]
    • gesewa na 下世話な
      [Someone] who chit-chats, prattles.
    • gumin 愚民
      Foolish people.
  • kono watashi wo dare dato omotteru no?
    Who do [they] think this me is?
    • Who do they think I am?

Kono Watakushi このワタクシ

負けませんわよ 時期生徒会副会長になるのはこのわたくしですわ! わ 私だって負けないもん! というか向日葵には負けないからっ うぐぐっ 相変わらず生意気な子ですわ
Manga: Yuru Yuri ゆるゆり (Chapter 7, 長期連載への布石)
  • Context: Furutani Himawari 古谷向日葵 competes with Oomuro Sakurako 大室櫻子 for the student council presidency.
  • makemasen wa yo
    [I] won't lose.
  • {jiki seitokai fukukaichou ni naru} no wa kono watakushi desu wa!
    The one [who] {will become the next student council vice-president} is this me!
    It's I [who] {will become the next student council vice-president}.
  • wa, watashi datte makenai mon!
    I-I won't lose [either]!
  • toiuka Himawari niwa makenai kara'
    Or rather, [I] wouldn't lose to [you], Himawari.
  • ugugu'
  • aikawarazu {namaiki na} ko desu wa
    As always, [you] are an {impertinent} child. (literally.)
    [You] are impertinent as always.

Kono (Insert Name Here)

Besides first person pronouns, sometimes the character's own name is used after the kono. This doesn't carry the same childish nuances that using one's own name as pronoun normally would have. See:

Manga: Dragon Ball, ドラゴンボール (Chapter 224, 孫悟空の静かな怒り)
  • temee nanka ga
    kono Nappa-sama ni
    kanau wake ga nai-n-da!!!

    てめえなんかが このナッパさまに かなうわけがないんだ!!!
    [There's no way someone like] you [can defeat] THIS NAPPA-SAMA!!!
    • kanau 叶う - can mean "to rival" sometimes, as in, "can defeat," since someone unrivaled is undefeatable.

And, of course, we can't forget the classic:

kono Dio da! このディオだッ! panel from manga JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, JoJo no Kimyou na Bouken ジョジョの奇妙な冒険
Manga: JoJo no Kimyou na Bouken ジョジョの奇妙な冒険 (Chapter 4, 負けられない戦いの巻)
kosoado kotoba こそあど言葉

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